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Topic: colleges with woodworking programs?
Posted: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:37:44 PM
It has not been said, but here is my pick: Pittsburg State University, Pittsburg, KS

It is geared towards industry, but very comprehensive.

I am a 2009 Grad so I'm partial :)
Topic: Safety videos by students
Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:35:50 PM
Have any of you gentleman or ladies had your students make safety videos for class and if so was it succesfull? I will still go over the content and test the same way, but wanted to try something different due to our district going one to one on technology. In addtion, I want to show administration that we are trying to implememt the new technology in course work out in the shop.

Thank you in advance!
Topic: curriculum help
Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:55:56 PM
I have used the search feature and found many people are willing to send curriculum if an email address is supplied.

I will take anything you have that helps you out. I'm having difficulties coming up with curriculum or more importanly a flow for the classes I teach.

When I was hired on, it was on the assumption that they were going to implement an auto program. I was informed yesterday that I will be teaching cabinetry for atleast 3-5 years.

So please if you have some time and want to help out a new teacher please send what you will to:

Thank you,
Colin Sutter
Industrial Technology
USD 268
Topic: Bill of materials (B.O.M.)
Posted: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:49:36 PM
I have an excel file I made that works awesome for BOM and you can manipulate it to fit your prices on lumber.
Topic: blade height on table saw
Posted: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:46:47 PM
I teach 1/4" also, but an easier way is I tell them to the bottom of the gullet on the teeth which is really like 5/16" on a common combo blade.
Topic: teaching burnout?
Posted: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:43:41 PM
Giz wrote:
I think we need more info, brah!

How long have you been teaching?

What are the external pressures?

For me, there are many external concerns that frustrate me.

But when the tardy bell rings, most of those go away, and I'm able to lead the students in my shop the way I think I should.

Certainly, there are challenges within the classroom, but they pale before the other stuff that rains down upon us from the outside.

I do my best to let that stuff roll off my back and focus on what's in front of me.

Mostly, with the students in my shop, I can win the battles. The stuff that comes from outside, I can't.

Share more, please.

I am in my second year teaching 5 preps-3 woodworking, 2 welding.

Outside influences-Wife is preggo with #4, we are a single income house, septic has given up the ghost, propane tank needs to be replaced. Just a lot of life issues.

Cab 1- We start out with a 4 joint box-mitre, rabbet/mitre, dado rabbet, and a regular rabbet, That way the kids know the basic ways to put into drawer bottoms or other box projects.
Then they have to find or design the next project. The kids all chose cedar chests for projects, some have opted to make them out of oak.
Then we cover jigs and work into a mass production project, this year we are building 40 Adirondak chairs. The kids have to develop the jigs that will make production easier. They have to design them in CAD and build a working example. We talk about flow charts and figure out a flow chart for production.

Last year we made mortise and tenon side side tables and dovetailed jewelry boxes. Mass production was a lasered clock project.

My wood working experience is not extensive, I think of it as basic+, I know how to use all the equipment very well and can build anything I have set out on.

I'm a follow the directions kind of guy and I really like having a model to follow, problem is I cannot find a model program to adopt on the internet.

If you have a curriculum map and want to share it with me, I would be eternally grateful. That way I could see what all other teachers are doing and work some new things into my mix.

I teach safety, show how to use all the machines, setup of jigs(panel slide, tenon jig, raised panel jig ect.). Designing a project, How to make a plan of procedure from a working drawing, then figure lumber for a BOM.
I guess I just do not exude building confidence. I hate sucking at something and want to be a better teacher, just don't know where to look for help.

Topic: teaching burnout?
Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:24:41 AM
I'm starting to feel the burn so to speak and I was just wondering if anybody here has ever been or is in the same boat and what resources (books, movies, ect.) did you find that help get you back on the horse.

I have had a lot of outside influences keeping me from entirely focusing on my classes, we are in project mode, but I get the feeling that the classes are just going through the motions, just like myself.

Any thoughts, advice, or resources are greatly appreciated!

Topic: Semesters ending and I'm losing it!
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:07:41 PM
oldshopteacher wrote:
I can appreciate that you want to pass on everything you know to your students but you just don't have the time. To preserve your sanity you need to focus down on what's do-able. Say this to yourself at least 10 times: "Anything I teach them is more than they know."

The list Creighta gave you is good advice. I would add the router to the "inside and out" list. I also agree with him re Sketchup (something I knew nothing about until I joined this forum.) It is becoming an important part of my retirement fun.

But I can't agree about reducing welding to a survey. Wood sap runs in your and my veins but some kids run on acetylene. They deserve equal opportunity. Frankly, I sucked at welding but I managed to teach the basic safety and operation of stick, MIG and O/A welding in my General Class. Scale down to what's doable in nine weeks and practice your skillset until you can fool the kids into thinking you actually like welding. I chose projects with the expectation that if a toad like me could weld it any student could easily succeed at it.

The end result of anything you do should be that your students love what they do and pursue it further. Think like a T-Ball coach: All you want them to be able to do is hit, throw and catch and, most of all, love the sport. Then when you go watch them play varsity ball you know you've succeeded. You're the guy who's blessed (cursed) with teaching baby steps - you most definitly ain't baby sitting.

All good advice, but I actually do not have sap in my veins more like 30w valvoline! I actully have a 5G welding certificate and love welding. I use to hate woodworking, but after I have built a few projects (mostly honey-do's) I am starting to like it more and more.

Another question:
Does anybody teach a cabintry class, if so what is your yearly plan like? I have taught basic joints and assigned projects, but feel like I'm missing what they really need. What do you do and what really works for you?

Thank you all for your insight and willingness with a "green" teacher and I don't mean recycling!

Topic: Literacy night
Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:36:09 PM
I have a measurment workseet just like the one stated. I have my 9th graders do it after we cover safety/measuring. Measure objects in the room, shop and around our tech facility(hall, class, ceiling, ect.)
Topic: Semesters ending and I'm losing it!
Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:00:05 PM
With the close of this semester, I find myself reflecting on the previous, now 3, semesters and find myself lost. Here is my problem:
I teach 5 preps, with 2 being duplicates (intro to Industrial Tech and Cabinetry 1) I'm half way into my second year teaching and feel like I'm just baby setting.

I know how to use all the tools, layout, brd ft. calculation, wood science ect., but I essentially do not have a good grasp on what is needed. How bad does that sound? I am one of those people that need structure, but I lack to provide it for my students and essentially for myself.

My main area of concern for this second semester is cabinetry and intro.

Cabinetry students should know all the basic joints, how to make them and where to best use them-Does this sound like what needs to be in place?

With the intro kids, I have to split 18 weeks between the wood lab and welding lab. In the last 3 semesters we have averaged 13-15 weeks in the wood lab and 3-5 weeks in the welding lab. I personally feel that 18 weeks is too short to accomplish what I feel are the essentials for freshmen to know in two very involved areas of craftsmenship, am I wrong???

Cany of you more experienced shop teachers shed some light on my problem???

I love teaching on most days, but today is just not one of them :(

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