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Topic: Lathe advice
Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:27:41 AM
Keith for our first turning experience we make "woodsicles" read wooden icicles. Rip your 1" or 3/4" scrap so it's square (1"x1" or 3/4"x3/4") cut to 8"-10" long. Take the kids as a group thru finding centers on both ends, use the awl to mark one side then use the back saw to cut the X an 1/8" deep on the other for the spur center. Mount them up on the lathe and learn the basics of lathe use,tool control,sanding and butchers wax finishing on this entry level project. Turn one of these in front of the kids for an intro to the tool. You cant do it wrong, the design simply has to taper from the top to the bottom think "carrot" and just add a series of beads and coves to dress it up. You'll need micro turning tools to work on this scale but you also need them to turn pens as well. Always check a kids lathe set up before they turn it on. I have them go thru a lathe checklist before turning the power on. The kids go to deep or blow thru the blank, no problem it was destined for the kindling box anyway. If a blank flys off the lathe, it's not going to cause any problems as it's so small but a lesson in lathe safety is learned the easy way.My kids on the mini lathes have to wear a face shield as I have never seen a manufactured guard for one of these machines. Get the smallest screw eyes that you can find and put one in the top of the woodsicle, add fishing line to hang, they look nice hung from the sash locks on a window. And with our instant gratification generation they can usually finish in a class. Let them make and break a few of these before you even think about starting pens. When they start with pens you do one in front of them, this is where the minilathes shine as you can set them up benchtop and get the kids to really see what they need to. If you have the lathe on a lazy susan you can spin it around for them to see proper setups and heights of the lathe and turning tools. A word on pens, I buy the kit from Penn State, use your own wood for the pens to save a few bucks and to also give the kids the experience of prepping their own blanks. I run the unit as a mass production exercise, each day is another step comingled with your regular projects so everyone is busy. Pre cut blanks to length with a dedicated jig on your miter saw so they are consistant in length. Use a machinist vise with a v block to drill out the 7mm hole. Then epoxy as a group this will cut down on waste and aggrevation. Other beginning projects can be fishing lures and backscratchers (handles)even baseball bats One last thing, I always story board projects with progressive step by step examples and cutaway views to help explain the process/concepts. Contact me if you need more info/pics.

P.S. the sawstop fantom stops from last year were fixed by replacing the control box.

Topic: Tech show
Posted: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:04:46 PM
Here are some shots of our annual Art and Technology show
(DSC_0029)look for the really cool wooden bike that will get completed early next year, a ton of lathe work and measuring and angles etc to deal with, who says that we don't cross the curriculum in woodworking? (DSC_0021) We did 22 Jake's chairs (Adirondack chairs) these plans are free online and are the best and easiest to make. All shown were done by first year students, you can jig and fixture the chair out so anyone can do it, it's great for pr with parents. We also prepared one ahead of time that a select group of students assembled the night of the show and raffled off
(DSC-0027)The small projects that you see glued up with papers next to them are from an activity that my GT students did. We went to a local Elementary school with about 3 months worth of scraps and had the 3rd graders build "sculptures" with them. My boys ran the class and worked in groups to present the lesson. The papers are from a writing exercise that our GT coordinator did with the kids afterwards. We asked them to bring their projects to the show for display and many kids did.
Topic: My first and last year of teaching
Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2011 8:41:24 PM
Wow this post really hit home, I recall having similar feelings after my first year.........I really don't know what got me back there for the second year, but I did it. After two years I still felt the same way, that was it for me. No way was I going back. I put my resignation in, I was going back to construction, a career that I actually missed in comparison to teaching. But then I thought about the commitment I made, earning my degree at night over many years. Maybe the particular situation I was in was wrong for me. So I tried it again in a district that more resembled where I had gone to school. I didn't have the ideal schedule but at least I got to teach two classes in woodworking. It got better because I got better. It really got better when another teacher announced his retirement and I was approached to teach woodworking exclusively, that was 10 years ago although it dosen't seem that long ago.
One of the hardest things to square away in my head was how to get the feeling of accomplishment in this job. I had worked in marine construction before teaching, the results of my efforts were immediate and tangible How many piles were driven that day? How many lineal feet of concrete forms were set? At the end of the day my efforts were readily visible. Not the same in teaching though as we all know. You keep plugging away and eventually you see the fruits of your labor, you already have as you stated with the quantity of projects going out your shops doors. You may think that you aren't doing well but your co workers and administrators see different.
The destructive types will always be there, sure its frustrating. And you feel like they have it out for you. But look at your 7th graders. You got them going and they made your day. The older ones probably were held to a low standard by your predecessor and you had the nerve to hold them accountable in their actions and work ethic. That situation was not of your making. You've groomed the younger ones to your expectations, this process takes time. Word gets around the building that Dave is a cool teacher but he puts up with no B.S. You change the culture of your room one kid at a time. Then the low life's bent on destruction begin to become outnumbered by the good kids in your class, but again this takes time Dave. When I'm having one of those days and I look outside to see a rain storm or a foot of snow on the ground I remember what it was like to work in outside construction and appreciate teaching even more. Try it some place else, you never know what will happen. Like you I had a great wood shop teacher in high school who did it 30 plus years and was still enthusiastic when he retired. A retired co-worker once said "Remember, if your not having fun at this job it's not the kids fault"
Topic: Saw Stop questions
Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:40:48 AM
Here I thought that I was the only one............ We have the same saw as you. So the riving knife by itself replaces the guard and anti-kick back fingers for narrow rips? How do you handle the Dadoing? As far as SS customer service goes they were responsive and addressed the situation quickly. I hope that the new switch does the trick. I know what you are saying about the unisaw, but the piece of mind that this saw gives to us guys is great. I registered the saw early on and I'm glad that I did. Just like in your shop, this machine is at the heart of everything. If it dosen't work, we don't work

Topic: Saw Stop questions
Posted: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:01:19 AM
After a few years of lobbying we got our Saw Stop. It replaces an older Unisaw. A couple of questions though: Our unit comes with an integral guard that only allows you to rip down to 7/8" or so until you hit the fence with the guard/splitter. This is not an uncommon operation around our shop. We "solved" this by clamping an L shaped jig of two pieces of plywood to the fence that will not hit the guard as the 3/4" plywood dosent obstruct the guard. Also when you dado with the machine, the guard is unusable as it is attached to the blade assembly. Finally the machine has "stopped" in the middle of cutting operations several times, no brake set off, just phantom stops. Saw Stop sent us a new on/off box to replace it. Unfortunately,it is of a different configuration than the one on our saw so it needs to be sent back. The unit is well thought out and solidly built, but have any of you guys had to deal with these issues? If so how?
Topic: Community Service/Service Learning
Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:42:35 PM
Over the years we have done a few mass production projects for the troops:

I always remind my students to add these activities to their college applications e.t.c. Each one of these projects got local press coverage that keeps us relevant and in a good light. While the term Community Service can have a negative ring to it from a kids point of view, my students were always willing participants in these activities. This year we are planning to do something similar, as we have a few recent Grads overseas in Afghanistan. Hope this helps

Topic: end of year projects
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:25:50 AM
Here is a link to my schools webpage featuring our kids work. We still offer alot to our kids, you'll see woods, metals, graphics, CAD, and electricity projects. Enjoy

Topic: My Student's Checkerboards
Posted: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:41:38 PM
Really cool project. Your jigs and fixtures make it all possible. Are the checkers cut from dowels? How long does it take them to build these?
Topic: Fishing lures
Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:00:37 AM
Anybody out there have any experience turning fishing lures? We've never done it before, so were looking for any and all resources. All help is appreciated, thanks
Topic: Longboard skateboards
Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:56:04 PM
Thanks for your replies. I'm going to start building the jig featured on diyskate while I wait for the lumberyard to track down the wood.


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